Gas tax increase? What a wonderful way to boost our economy!!! REALLY??? Why not try cutting taxes and allowing business to actually make a profit and want to come to our state? Has to generate more revenue than trying to get our entire population on public assistance!!!

Sure thing..raise the gas tax. The guy probably rides a bicycle, doesn't have to travel to work and he is lucky gas didn't stay at $4/gal. Maybe he didn't notice that everything else went up in price when gas/oil went up. Amazing how people scream out..TAX ME!

The dems will be as nice to Joe Liebermann as possible...until they lose the 60 vote majority.

At the end of the day, Nat Crowley, Joe Liebermann is a Democrat. In this present climate of Democrat unpopularity, you may see more Joe Lieberman type tactics among democrat 2010 candidates......Republicans be aware.....We saw that recently in the NY 23rd District race....

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"Bells for Babies" is an interesting idea. Anything to raise awareness of "America's Holocaust"....

So Donciani and LilMikey - what is your solution to the problem? Like most deadbeat Republicans you can sit behind a computer screen and complain. Yet come up with a soultion, I don't think so.

Another tax. Here's an Idea: Everybody that actually works for a living and pays taxes should start paying their own. No more employer deductions for anybody. All you need to do is simply write those federal, state, social security, disability, health insurance, occupation and a plethora of other checks monthly or quarterly like self-employed folks do. Once people realize exactly how much these pirates in government are pulling out of their pocket there will be a revolution. Remember the story about the frog in the boiling water??..

Johnnie Cancelarich you have just stepped into the lion's den. Our society now thrives on perversion with absolutely no though of the consequences. Corruption, Pollution and global warming are the least of our concerns. We are spiritually bankrupt and drowning in immorality.

Nat Crowley Sr and Mike McVicker~Nice Piece~You Nailed IT

But You Left Out Alot

They Are All Just Like Lieberman

They Just Show Their True Colors In Many Ways

We Used To Call Those Ways~Criminal Activity

All Entrenched Politicians Need To Go

And There Replacements Need To Be Schooled

In What Integrity Means

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Gerald Lufkin~Nope~Same Song and Dance After Tabor has Been Voted Out Again.

I have NO MORE Pennies To Give To The Bloated Out of Control State of Maine Government.

IT Is HIGH NOON in Maine~Time To DEMAND What Needs to BE DONE

NOT LATER~NOW~Its Time To Vote In~People That SWEAR They Will Shrink State Government

Even If That Will Take There Job

Nice job John Hubbard.......The Obama Administration is reeling with the latest Terrorist Attack, not because Americans nearly died, but because after his worldwide apology tour in which he went around bowing and apologizing to everyone up to and including the Burger King, the muslim world still hates us. Janet Incompetano is a complete and utter joke, she has zero military and no law enforcement expirence and yet she is in charge of our safety, thanks democrats I feel really safe with you folks watching our backs.

Nat, How did Lieberman vote on HC...with the Dems or Repubs

Additional Gas Tax is a great idea and we should also raise the excise tax by a point or two while we are at it. And lets raise some more taxes to get Dirigo back on track.

To Mr. Lufkin, This state already has a gas tax that produces enough money to take care of our roads. The problem lies with the fact that the pols in Augusta grab these funds for other pork projects and leaves the DOT kitty bare. They know full well that when it comes time to fund the DOT, all they have to due is put a bond issue up for vote. They know that Mainers will always vote to borrow money for fixing roads. If you think raising the gas tax will provide any more money to keep our roads maintained, you are sadly mistaken.

"We are spiritually bankrupt and drowning in immorality."

FUNDIE OPINION ONLY!

NO FACTS CAN BE PROVIDED!

WHAT A CROCK!

Facts are available on pollution and corruption (dunno 'bout the warming claims)... No facts, no problems.

Good thing flat lander ain't from around here.....We need to cut taxes in this state not add new ones. We just went from the highest taxed state in the country to #3, we don't need to go back. What we need to do is cut the "earned income tax credit" that all the people on welfare get and use the savings to fix our roads. It's hard to believe that people who don't work or contribute anything get a 'tax return', it's beyond absurd.

Thetruth...first off, I am NOT a republican. I happen to be a democrat...a very disgusted democrat. I can give you a very simple solution, lower or cut taxes...not raise them. Put people to work and get them off handouts. I will spell the word for you..W O R K. Or like Joe Biden says, that 3 lettter word..J O B S. As for being a deadbeat, the only deadbeats I know want higher taxes in order to get freebies. Are you one of them?

Here We Go Again~Abortion Is Legal

So It Sure Is Fun To Say This

Get Over It

Oh Yeah Dat Felt Real Good

Gerald Lufkin of East Millinocket

One of the many thousands who vote to fill our legislature and Blaine House with moonbats, year after year...

The earned income tax credit is for people who work... it's based on earned income. It was an enormous help to me in the early 1990s when I was a working single father raising two kids. When Clinton raised the EIC shortly after he took office, the economy soared. People with marginal incomes spent the money on appliances and other necessities, which in turn created jobs. This worked a lot better than GW Bush's tax cuts for the super-rich, or even Reagan's trickle-down policies.

No the earned income tax credit is the tax return that people on welfare get....They pay no taxes and yet they get a tax refund. It's not for people who work. People who work get tax returns on the taxes that they pay in, no problem with that. My problem is with people that contribute nothing, yet reap the benifits of people that work. It's a ridiculous policy that needs to stop.

President Obama's first year in office: 13 people killed on American soil by terrorist acts.

President Bush's first year in office: 3000 plus people killed on American soil by terrorist acts.

The score Bush 3000+ -Obama 13, after the first quarter. Mr. Obama you have some serious catching up to do.

Freedom Of Speech~Seems Like Some~Don`t Like Dat

So Here Goes Again~Oh Yeah

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Here We Go Again~Abortion Is Legal

So It Sure Is Fun To Say This

Get Over It

Oh Yeah Dat Felt Real Good

re 8:14 AM, Obamaoluva: I don't see that this administration is "reeling" from this attack. I don't really see any difference in how the last administration reacted to such attacks. The only attacks that keep Obama et al reeling is the relentless blame game played by the conservative extremists.

Johnnie Cancelarich

Pro-Life chairman

Presque Isle

May the sins of selfishness, violence, wars, perversion of human sexuality (masturbation, fornication, adultery and homosexuality), unforgiveness, the rejection of spouses and children, unborn or born, cease.

You forgot to mention molestation by priests as a "perversion of human sexuality:"

What a joke

$43,279 ($48,279 married filing jointly) with three or more qualifying children

$40,295 ($45,295 married filing jointly) with two qualifying children

$35,463 ($40,463 married filing jointly) with one qualifying child

$13,440 ($18,440 married filing jointly) with no qualifying children

These are the amounts listed on the IRS website. So unless you and your spouse earn less than 48,000 per year together, you aren't getting any EIC. But you contribute nothing to society (you do not work because you're soooooooooooooooo disabled) only able to perform recreational activities, you get a sweet chunk of change. Sticking it to the working class once AGAIN.

LOL maybe TheTruth should learn to read between the lines the answers are very simple stop giving our tax money away to every group of people that decides they will give you their vote if you promise to take care of them. These people should never have left home and stayed with mommy! There are people in genuine need of assistance and we do have a moral obligation to help them, However I literally know dozens of people who cheat the system and are living off our

LOL maybe TheTruth should learn to read between the lines the answers are very simple stop giving our tax money away to every group of people that decides they will give you their vote if you promise to take care of them. These people should never have left home and stayed with mommy! There are people in genuine need of assistance and we do have a moral obligation to help them, However I literally know dozens of people who cheat the system and are living off our taxes I even know one guy who wanted to go to town so he called an ambulance to take him to the hospital, after he was released he went to the bar!!! My ex sister in law is on public assistance and when her kids are sick she waits till after the doctors office is closed to take them to the emergency room because she has said she enjoys the attention. They are not the only ones, Anyone who has spent any time around any supsidized housing developments can tell you the same types of story's. The solutions lay in our own community's, not in government intervention in our lives. Tell me were is the incentive to work if you have someone to take care of you and all they want from you is for you to continue to vote for them.

TheTruth - So, you can't read. Donciani mentioned one very important part of the solution, cutting taxes so businesses will come to Maine. Cutting the corporate tax in half will bring trillions of dollars back into the country and open up jobs for hundreds of thousands of people right here at home. Lifting the oppressive restrictions on businesses that drove many of them overseas would work wonders to bring them back. And it would generate more revenue to the government than they will ever see if they continue to raise taxes on everything we do, produce, or need.

ziggyz - We are spiritually bankrupt and drowing in immorality. Just check the decline in our educational standing with the rest of the world. Just check the abortion rates. Just check the teen pregnancy rates. Just check the crime rates. How many prisons have been built in the last 40 years, and how many more are being built to house this generation of criminals? Check the drop-out rate in our schools (public schools in particular). Watch any movies or television lately? When the name of Jesus is taken in vain, it is no longer bleeped out, but cussing is. To Christians, taking the name of Jesus is vain is worse than any cuss word. Daytime television is full of sex and immorality. Late night TV, and even a lot of prime time shows have way too much sex and immorality. The Internet is unsafe for children, and even for many adults. And the list goes on and on. ziggyz, our country is spiritually bankrupt. But, if you can't see that, then you probably have no spiritual side in you. And we are drowning in immorality. If you can't see that, then you may be part of the problem. And, yes, that is my opinion.....based on the cold, hard evidence that is staring everyone in the face. Open your eyes.

Electra - Yes, abortion is legal. But that doesn't make it right. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.

hank - Clinton raising the EIC had very little to do with the economy soaring. If it did, the economy would still be soaring because the EIC is still in play and costing hard working taxpayers more and more each year. It is nothing more than a vote getting tool. As for what many people purchase with their EIC checks, I could tell you some stories that should make your blood boil. But, I'm sure you could, too.

yah, realist38~just keep telling Dem

Pro Child / Pro Choice

Now Again and Again And Again

Take It to The Courts

Until Then~Leave Law Abiding Citizens Alone

And Again

Oh Yeah~GET OVER IT<

How Can Anyone Be Allowed to be Calling Me A Murderer In The BDN

That Is Hypocrisy~From Hypocrites

Again Abortion Is Legal

It Is NOT Right That People Are Allowed to Call Law Abiding Citizens Murderers

Electra - No one called you a murderer....unless you're an abortion doctor. Of course, if you are an abortion doctor, and you use the excuse that what you're doing is legal, then what's the problem. It's just people like me that believe it's murder. Since when does what I believe make any difference?

Johnnie Cancelarich, it took us most of the last century to dig ourselves out of the delusional sewer to which you would have us return. You're on the wrong meds.

EJ, "murder" is a legal term used by the government to define a crime. Abortion is not a crime and therefore is not murder. It is moot to discuss its legality.

I agree with you EJ, murder is murder, how they choose

to justify it to make themselves feel better is irrelavant.

Cancelarich - I'd rather have you pray for the end of rape and violence toward women. Then, perhaps, this controversy would end.

Yeh EJParsons~You Have Called Me A Murderer

No Matter How You Try To Justify IT

When You Tell Someone What They Are Doing Is Murder

You Are Calling That Person A Murderer

Come On Now~Be A Man And Own Something

You Can Say You Feel The Law Is Not Right

But Again~Do Something About IT Like Change The Law Until Then

(((( Get Over IT<>Sweet Again ))))

I can understand some people being upset with the virtues of chastity. Really conflicts with either the "free love" or "gay" lifestyle.

Woody 1 I think both rape and violence toward women are included in Johnnie Cancelarich's prayers. Or are all other forms of violence acceptable as long as those two are specifically ruled out.

Electra - I'll ask again; are you an abortion doctor? If not, then you are not a murderer.

William - Taking the life of an unborn, innocent baby is murder, plain and simple.

"Leadership needed" by Mike McVicker of Weston triumphantly exposes our national corpocracy. "Eternal vigilence is the price of liberty; power is ever stealing from the many to the few" - Wendell Phillips.

Johnnie Cancelarich of Presque Isle, your letter "Bells for babies" is quite polite and warm. But maybe people who believe God is against a woman's right to choose should take a moment to ask God why, according to Funk & Wagnalls New Encyclopedia:"It is estimated that some 25 percent of all human pregnancies terminate spontaneously in abortion". Maybe He and our mothers know best what's in store for us. And if God didn't want us to masterbate, why didn't he make our arms shorter?

John Hubbard of Bangor, why in your successfully succinct letter "Misplaced confidence" do you claim the Obama administration is failing? Pat Lamarche's OpEd today pointed out that December was the "first month in six years without a U.S. casualty in Iraq", the Dow Jones Industrial is back over 10,000 (10,579), the banks are paying back their TARP funds ( http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10tarphtml ), and the PETN "bomb" on the Airbus 330 flight carrying 278 passengers for some reason didn't explode on our Savior's celebrated birthday. "Success is how high you bounce after you hit rock bottom" - General George S. Patton.

Sorry You can`t SEE Facts EJParsons@~nothin I can Do About A Stone Wall Thought Process.

So I`ll Just Go With What Works Best

((((( Get Over IT )))))~Or Do Something About It>Even Sweeter This Time<

The BDD must be some proud of the misinformation you have been feeding your readers for them to have written such letters.

Raise the gasoline tax to $4.00 sounds like a great idea and should be most welcome for those who need to truck groceries across the state in order to feed a million people scattered around the state.

John Hubbard speaks of the incompetent DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, however the department responsible for allowing the under-pants bomber in the USA is the State Department, lead by Hillary R . Clinton.

Nate Growley speaks of Senator Lieberman (D/I CT) being Republican in thinking. The one place where Lieberman agrees with Republicans is in protecting the lives of Americans. You are correct that Lieberman is not part of the "Hate America" party, however he supports most left wing causes. He is even supporting the socialized medicine in order to use billions of health care funds to support the trial lawyers instead of the patients.

Sumner

dontya just love these anti-abortion weirdos......HOW MANY of them have adopted a child/fostered a child? How many are mentors to children? LOL pa-leeeeze......you act as tho women just run out and get abortions "willy-nilly"........the Majority of these abortions are a "Necessity"....and are a PRIVATE MATTER..between that person and thier concience...its NO one elses business. Typical Religious Crap..sticking thier unwanted child-mollesting noses in other people's business! Hmmm, how much have they PAID OUT thus far to SILENCE the MOLLESTED??? BILLIONS!!!!!!!! How much have they shelled out to Fight Equality for ALL citizens? MILLIONS! You Brainwashed Lemmings that belong to the American Taliban!

How Many Take Contraceptives

Hypocrisy At It Finest~Yes Indeedee

Once Again Oh Yeah (((( Get Over It ))))

WHY Don`t They Do Something About IT

It Is Called Not Liking To Lose~And They Know They Would Lose BIG TIME

So Once Again You R Looking At Whinnying And Hypocrisy At ITS Finest

Dang, Where Did De ALL Go

Shisssssa~I Can Almost Hear The New Conspiracy

I used to be against abortion, then I researched it. 90% of the recipients are democrat, welfare, minorities....Now I donate $100 a month to NARAL and say keep up the great work!

The only tax that we should increase is the tax that people on welfare get, which is currently none. We need to increase the tax to 100% of their check, guess what, they'd all be working within a week.

That's nice of you Oboamaluva..

Wish everyone else was as generous as you...

Idk 50 million abortions in 37 years some of them could have been willy nilly? How do you all feel about using tax dollars to fund abortions that are supposed to be between a woman and her conscience?

Oh How Many Times I Heard My Mommy Say

I Wish Abortion was Around For Your Time Electra

Can You Believe DAT Mommy of Mine

Of Course That Was When I Did Something Wrong

Which Was Most of the Time According to Her And Now My Wife Says the Same Dang Thing

A Conspiracy For Sure

ElectraGlide, contraceptives take effect prior to conception. Abortion is a long time after conception. They are not the same.

Honestly why would you not use contraceptives if you do not wish to have a child? Sure the contraceptive being used could fail, but it is very unlikely this accounts for all abortions. Sure some are because or rape and because of the health of the mother. What is the real percentage of abortions that are performed simply because the people involved in creating this life were to irresponsible to protect themselves from pregnancy?

DisgustedAmerican - Your rant fails to mention anything about the rights of the unborn to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one has the right to take that away from anyone, unborn or born. And, for your information, I have adopted a child, and I've worked at and raised money for several orphanages oveseas and in the States. Through my connection with a couple of these orphanages, several military couples were able to adopt children directly from the orphanages without having to pay the high cost of lawyers, and everything was perfectly legal. I've also never defended, nor paid any money to defend a child mollestor. Child mollestors should be castrated and sent to Siberia or maybe East Saint Louis. And those that support abortions should be requred to witness what happens to the unborn child during this process.

Don't forget plan B too Doncianci.......

It's also available,

11:25 AM -- SORRY EJ!

I need FACTS to believe that the state of America is IMMORALITY and not SPOILED ROTTEN LAZINESS. Ain't showed NOTHING for that. PRISONS? That just shows how much victimless crime the US of A tolerates... it's a POLICE STATE!!!

NOTHING DEMONSTRATES HOW THE STATE OF AMERICA IS TIED OT YOUR IDEA OF MORALITY!!!

Facts can prove that... IF THERE ARE ANY!

Gigitty gigitty gigitty!!!

12:40 PM, EJParsons, when you make statements like that you must say "in my opinion." In the opinion of the supreme court, it is not murder and they are the people who interpret the laws.

Seeker, the real problem is people like you who are comfortable declaring others immoral over issues you know nothing about. Chastity and celibacy are private matters, not statuses you decide about for others.

EJParsons wrote:

"DisgustedAmerican - Your rant fails to mention anything about the rights of the unborn to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one has the right to take that away from anyone, unborn or born."

Except if they're gay, or women, or black - or anything that people like you "traditionally" choose to exclude, you fraud.

Hey Stevey_Dee~Whats Up

Yesterday Was Screeeky Clean Day~And now You can Get Away With Murder

Dang, I already no I`m an Abortion~I would rather be that then Visa Versa.

SO AGAIN~The HIGH ROAD

Freedom Of Speech~Seems Like Some~Don`t Like Dat

So Here Goes Again~Oh Yeah

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Abortion Is Legal

So It Sure Is Fun To Say This

Get Over It

Oh Yeah Dat Felt Real Good Over and Over and Over Again<

PRO Blittle / PRO CHOICE

Dang It, Sorry, Fingers Just Slipped

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And BTW EJ~~I surely know what Contraceptives ARE~If NOT I would Have A Million Kids~Then I would of Had A Million Decisions~And All them Decisions mite of Turned into another ((Blittle)) SO NO Changes of That Happening.

And NO ONE that Means From the Roman Catholic Worshipers have Explained to Me how IT came About that Contraceptives Are OK<>Now Vs In the Past. And for ALL of The Other Churches Known By Me as A Bunch of Mans Interpretations~Just how Many was it somewhere over 2000.

((( GET OVER IT ))) Dang, Feels Sweeter Every Single Time. Not as Good As Procreating but Close

Don`t IT<>Stevey_Dee

And hey EJ, what do you have to say about your evangelical buddies and "The Family" supporting execution of gay men in Uganda. The BDN has conspicuously ignored this news for a couple of months. I'm sure Mike Heath is involved it this disgrace somehow.

We have freedom of speech for now, but who knows when barrack HUSSEIN obama will take that away from us........

Oh yeah I think Cloward and Piven do, since barrack HUSSEIN obama is following their believe to a tee.

Oh "The Family" by the way, is an organization of evangelical Republican politicians who have a meeting house on C Street in Washington DC. It has been a secret organization since the 1930s and only getting noticed now because of their Nazi-like support of a "final solution" for gay men in Uganda. They deny their involvement after being exposed by the press. There is nothing moral about these people.... nothing...

Dang WilliamDS~Wonder If Pres Obama would Be Interested IN Dat.

Maybe A reminder IS needed~He sorta busy man dealing with Fools

Ya know the Congress of America

Sounds Like a Good Time for another Scandal

And WOW would that Be One WilliamDS

So Sad We Have No More Hard Core Reporters Anymore

I would Say that Saying That About any President

Could and Should~Get You Talking to the Secret Service

And if Not That~~A Good Tar and Feathering Will Do For Me

TheTruth wrote:

"So Donciani and LilMikey - what is your solution to the problem? Like most deadbeat Republicans you can sit behind a computer screen and complain. Yet come up with a soultion, I don't think so."

Change the excise tax from value of vehicle to weight of vehicle so that the vehicles doing the most damage pay their share of the tax.

Put a temporary toll on all new capital expenditures like new bridges, and new (not repaired) roads. This way the folks who actually USE the new facilities will pay the lion's share of the State levy. regionalize at least 50% of State gas tax so that the people who are spending the money on gas tax get at least half of what they pay for. Right now the Northern and Eastern parts of the State pay the greatest amount of gas tax, and the Southern and Western regions get the most capital improvements. knock the weight limit of large trucks down to 80.000 lbs on Maine's secondary roads, and quadruple the fine for over weight limit violations. Make accident vehicle owners pay for repairs when the accident involves State property (guardrails, bridges, etc.

Some unsolicited advice for you. never believe your view is a universal "truth" universal "truth" does not exist.

WilliamsDS, So what if you're offended? Isn't that the standard condition for all liberals? EVERYTHING offends you guys! Freedom of speech really gets you guys all wound up. As far as accentuting his middle name, That is his middle name is it not? Maybe we need another government bureaucracy , We can call it the Federal Bureau of Highly Accentuated Speech. George Orwell ?

Bernard Nathanson,M.D., co founder of NARAL was one of the principal architects of the U.S. abortion movement in the early 60's and 70's. Nathanson is now working very hard to overturn Roe vs Wade. He admits that together with Betty Friedan and another guy ,Lader, they "fudged poll numbers of fictional polls" and falsified #'s of deaths due to illegal abortions.

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New technology in the 70's....Ultrasound,Electronic Fetal Heart Monitoring,Fetoscopy, Cordocentiesis(treating a baby's illness while in the womb).....convinced Nathanson that this was a real person , a patient, and as a physcian his responsiblility was to save his patient's lives not destroy them.....

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Using ultrasound in 1985, Nathanson made a film entitled " The Silent Scream"....The film portrayed what happened during an abortion in the 1st 3 months.He later, in 1987, did a film entitled ," Eclipse of Reason" that showed exactly what happens to a baby during a late term abortion.

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HarryH~~I Agree With Most that You Say~Except That Part About 100,000 lbs

It would be fine by me~as an X driver

But What Chance IS there of Changing That Law ALL Across America For That is What It Would Take

For As I Told You Before

When A Truck Gets off the Interstate~Where Do They Put 20,000lbs??

Now If That Was Lobsta My Yard Will Do

No, just things that are embarrassingly ignorant, Christino.

Blittler, "fascist and socialist" is an oxymoron.

Why do my comments keep getting erased? must be the liberal way. When you libs cant win, you have to shut people up

I cant believe the liberl leaning paper like BDN would do such a thing

HeyLadyslipper@What About The Not So Silent Scream of Unwanted Kids Already All Over the World

Adopt the Ones We Have~OR Just Leave People Alone

So Again IT IS LEGAL~So DO Something About IT

OR AGAIN~((( Get Over IT )))

Sweeter and Sweeter Every Single Dang Time

And Still NO Answer From The Hypocrites about Contraceptives

Gotta Tell You Something~For Me That Is There R No Straight Shooters In The Christian Crowd

Obamaoluva, Concernsme is right on one thing, the administration isn't reeling, After all, he couldn't be bothered to cut short his vacation after a successfull terrorist attack, I mean man caused disaster, And it was successfull. He managed to evade security get on a plane and ignite his explosive device. The fact that it didn't explode as planned doesn't mean it was prevented. The difference between Bush an Obama is Bush was willling to go to war to protect America and Obama would rather apologize, bow to, sing Kumbaya with our enemies. Concersme if we're conservative extremist then are you a liberal extremist?

Here we go again. Abortion in the "last 3 months" is illegal. All this inflammatory language is an attempt to get people fired up over Roe vs Wade which was decided more than 35 years ago. Abortion in the last trimester is done only as a medical emergency. It's done after fetal death has occurred from some other cause and/or the mother's life is in imminent danger. You people need get fired up over real issues.

fas·cism

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism

so·cial·ism

2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

sounds like they are on the smae line of thinking to me you idiot

go back to school

6:27 PM, Blittler, if the BDN removed your comments, it was because you did not follow the rules of posting, not that you would be able to do that anyway...

On 1/6/10 at 6:31 PM, Christino wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

Obamaoluva, Concernsme is right on one thing, the administration isn't reeling, After all, he couldn't be bothered to cut short his vacation after a successfull terrorist attack, I mean man caused disaster, And it was successfull. He managed to evade security get on a plane and ignite his explosive device. The fact that it didn't explode as planned doesn't mean it was prevented. The difference between Bush an Obama is Bush was willling to go to war to protect America and Obama would rather apologize, bow to, sing Kumbaya with our enemies. Concersme if we're conservative extremist then are you a liberal extremist?

you must be a racist

lol They are opposites! wow...

On 1/6/10 at 6:34 PM, WilliamDS wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

6:27 PM, Blittler, if the BDN removed your comments, it was because you did not follow the rules of posting, not that you would be able to do that anyway...

elitist idiot I am a victim of bad schools so I cant read I dont think I have done anything that goes against this blogs rules

On 1/6/10 at 6:36 PM, WilliamDS wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

lol They are opposites! wow...

if I am so stupid then explain how they are different.

Christino~Is Selling His Soul To Try To Get A Repub President

Nit Picking is oh So Childish

He has Stuck His Neck Out to Continue in the Mid East

I`m Impressed with That~As I Did Not Vote for Him

Just overlook the Fact that His Own Party Extremist are Calling Him A Bush Wanna Be

It really Didn`t bother ME when Bush Flew Around For A While After 9/11 and Then Addressed the Country

It was the Smart thing to Do~Comparing A Failed Attempt In Detroit To Come back From VAca

Is Just Plain Showing Your True Colors

I could of Used Something VERY Different Than True Colors

Rules, follow the rules my friends....

Actually WilliamDS it is you that is the Oxymoron.....Fascism, Socialism and Communism may all have distinct minor differences, Govt' owned, VS Govt' controled VS Govt' subsidized but Blittler et. al. is 100% correct. They all result in the Government killing innocent civilians for their political gain, and they all need to be wiped of the face of the Earth by any means necessary!

Black and White~Tunnel Visioned Thinkers Are Just Whack Jobs

They Are Good For Something~Do Just Vice a Versa In What They Say

Everything Will Be OK~The Communist Scare

Dang ARe You Crazy We Have Already Dealt With That

On 1/6/10 at 6:34 PM, WilliamDS wrote:"6:27 PM, Blittler, if the BDN removed your comments, it was because you did not follow the rules of posting, not that you would be able to do that anyway... " Actually WilliamDS the BDN continually deletes not only conservative opinon, but conservative users from their 'blogs'. Don't worry there are forces much larger than the woefully pathetic liberal rag that is the BDN that are taking notice. In fact the rumor is there maybe a 'house cleaning' at the BDN to rid it of it's overwhelming liberal stench.

What We Have Never Really Dealt With Is the KKK and There Kind

And IT IS HIGH Time For Dat

Oh The Crying and Whining Oh You Poor Poor Babies

Why Don`t ya Take a Break for Milk and Cookies

Hey Mommy Dey Picking On Me~oh my oh my

Is There A Sissy Prison Around Here

Your right Astroglide: Let's start with all the racist filth in the Democrat party like Byrd, the only KKK member in Congress. I think he was a Grand Dragon. If it weren't for the Conservatives thier would still be slaves to this day. I'm glad all those Republicans died to free the slaves.

Nay, I have enough money for astroglide

I use It for A Purpose

You use it on YOURself

Ya Know IT IS Not Sun Tanning Lotion~Don`t Cha

Now we need to stop the Democrats who are trying to creat a whole other generation of slaves.

KKK membersihip is nearly 100% democrat, according to their own statistics. Personally I think they should all be imprisoned for life.

ElectraGlide, you wax poetically ~

But I remain unimpressed.

I but I bet you're surely impressed with~ yourself.

Attack was not failure~when

Terroist able to detonate bomb.

Darn history sure is a you-know-what. Facts just suck don't they!

Or Is AstroGlide~What U Use to Make You Shine

When Out At Nite Like Snakes~To Do Harm

To The Minority Kind

Att: Our fearless protector Janet Neoploitano has issued a new decree. All returning troops will be put on a terror watch list. Apparently she just found out that 99.99% of all service men are Republicans.

Abortion, or "Womens choice" or whatever you want to call it, you are still killing an innocent baby. No getting around that FACT!

Gotta Lov History~Especially Future History

Gonna Make You Whine and Cry Even More

Do You Really Think You Radicals Are Gaining Ground

When You Want To Set Us Back In Time

With the Abortion Issue

Oh How You MisJudge America

Yah Haven`t Got A Brass Set

That Would Allow You

To Go Say That To Our Troops

Actually Electrafilth: I doubt seriously that you could handle a bike of that magnitude. You sound more like a sportster 883 to me. Liberals can't ride large bore bikes. Their limp wrists can't handle the torque.

Hey christino and obamaoluva notice how the pathetic idiots cant dispute any facts you both bring up good points. It just goes to show how they want to either erase your comments or change the subject

check this out

VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT >>> >>> AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over >>> Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for >>> Freedom of Information" has ... See MoreReleased copies of President Obama's >>> college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the >>> transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry >>> Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia >>> as an undergraduate at the The transcript was released by Occidental >>> College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the >>> group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that >>> Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a >>> fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation >>> Scholarship program.. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student >>> must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide >>> the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. >>> Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is >>> no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking >>> pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as >>> the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and >>> qualification to serve as President. When reached for comment in >>> London , where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister >>> Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Britain >>> 's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article >>> titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate >>> that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first >>> official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing >>> pressure from several groups, >>> >>> >>> Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on >>> Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to >>> serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . >>> This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from >>> serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits >>> brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or >>> qualification to serve as president. >>> >>> Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the >>> results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This >>> study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign >>> funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal >>> resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. >>> Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the >>> final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric >>> Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter. >>> >>> . >>> LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON'T ! >>> >>> Subject: RE: Issue of Passport? >>> While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama >>> birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes >>> the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: >>> What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , >>> Jakarta , and Karachi ? >>> >>> >>> >>> So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, >>> without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up >>> with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? >>> >>> >>> And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , >>> and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through >>> Customs and Immigration? >>> >>> >>> The American people not only deserve to have answers to these >>> questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama's >>> citizenship a rather short and simple one. >>> >>> Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20? >>> A : Yes, by his own admission. >>> >>> Q: What passport did he travel under? >>> A: There are only three possibilities. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport, 2) He traveled with a British >>> passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport. >>> >>> Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. >>> Passport in 1981? >>> A: No.. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. >>> State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. >>> >>> Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling >>> either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport. >>> >>> If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide >>> proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as >>> he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that >>> would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous >>> citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by >>> his Indonesian step-father in 1967. >>> >>> Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know >>> how he managed to become a "natural born" >>> American citizen between 1981 and 2008.. >>> >>> Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as >>> illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous >>> spending plan he has presented to Congress,the sooner we learn the >>> truth of all this, the better. >>>

Christino: Aborted babies used to bother the heck out of me....Just remember they are 99% liberals that are being aborted, in other words they are killing their own DNA. When you think hard on this.....It may not be such a bad thing.

Do You Really Think Someone IS Going To Read

All That Crap

Hey Blittler, why do think he appointed Holder to AG. To take care of his 'problems'! Why do you think Holder pardoned the Black Panthers who attempted to kill the white voters at the polls in PA. It's all part of the agenda. Welcome to the freak show.

Now I Have To Go And Take A Bath

I Know You Babies Are Going To Miss Me

But The Snake Oil Is All Over Me

From Dealing With The Likes Of You

Dang, Gotta Say It ONE MORE TIME

(((( GET OVER IT ))))

Sweetness

Yeah, go take a bath, 'cause you worked so hard today. Don't forget to get up early and look for a JOB!

On 1/6/10 at 7:10 PM, ElectraGlide wrote: "Do You Really Think Someone IS Going To Read All That Crap ....:" I know it's probaly inconcievable for someone like you, who has to mouth all their words, to read a single paragraph, and then retain any information long enough to spew off a couple of sophmoric responses. Try hooked on fonics worked for me!

By the way Electrafilth it took me 30 seconds to read and retain the whole post.

Retired And Enjoying~Dang, Are You Jealous or What

Kinda Sensitive Too~Just Like A Baby

What IS Your Income Level

Or are You Like Most Liars~That Lie on Their Tax Statements

Crap IS Crap

After The First Crappy Sentence

There IS NO Need To Read All The Way

To The Last

For It Was All Crap

Beginning To End

ElectraGlide said: "Gotta Lov History~Especially Future History "....................HUH? Future history? Now that,... William DS where ever you are....Is the definition of an oxymoron, please make a note of it!

You see Obamaoluva to don't write all pretty and use the ~ symbol So You arEn't Sophisticated.

Actually Electrafilth: I doubt seriously that you could handle a bike of that magnitude. You sound more like a sportster 883 to me. Liberals can't ride large bore bikes. Their limp wrists can't handle the torque.

I make more in one week than you do in 2 months but what is your point? I shouldn't tell you that cause I'm sure that i am a "RICH " person and will have to pay more in taxes to pay for you to sit at your home on court st smoking dope and spewing worthless crap

I'm an FXDL 1450 myself. You definitly aren't a biker. I bet you wear HD everything but don't even ride.

Don`t Worry Your Baby Self To Death

You Won`t Be Mentioned At All

In Our Future History

Oh My You Just Proved To All

How You Are No Way As Educated

As You Try To Pretend You Are

Now Do NOT Forget the Baby Powder

After You Wipe Up~Or Does Your Baby Buddy

Take Care of Dat For Ya

Sweetness

Dang~ liars

Like tAx~ cheat

Tim Geightner

Secratary of TreAsurY

DAng~

I WisH i HaD a tRs-80 LikE elEcTraGlidE....OOps i SpillEd mY boNg aGain

Dang FXDL~I`ll Ride You Into The Ground Anytime

250 miles Is just A Quicky

Whats You Best Before You Start Whining And Crying

About A Sore Butt~I would Say 50 For An FXDL

Is A Baby Machine

Besides I Get Off On Music With The Surround Sound

And A Women Riding Comfortably Scratching My Back

I just figured it out ElectrGlide I'm sorry...I thought you were a pretend biker. Now I see, you are a housewife, the Electraglide is the new Electralux vacum model, sorry I missed judged you. Now get on that thang and clean up.

You better be careful about what bikers you talk pap to son. If the letters HA or numbers 81 mean anything to you....Back off.

Nay Electrolux has No Suction~I Prefer A Kirby With All the Chrome

ziggy - 4:04 PM - Since you seem like such an authority, why don't you defend your OPINION? As for my idea of morality, there is only one morality, and it's not relative.

AionCA - 5:32 PM - Welcome back. BDN must have lifted their ban on you. It's so nice to have your thoughful and mature comments once more. Hope you're haveing a wonderful New Year.

William - 5:40 PM - I don't have any family in Uganda. They ain't my buddies. By the way, if the Family is so secret, how do you know so much about them? Sounds a little made up to me.

Now R We Going To Salute Each Other Or What

Coast to Coast~!0,000 mi in 3 Weeks

You Wanna Go Next Time With Me

Now Morality Is Much Better

Thanks for Dat EJ

Ah A Nice Bath After A Long Day

Of Being Retired

Sweet

I ride with my friends and brothers, of witch you are niether.........But I'll be keeping an eye (and ball-peen) out for a blue electraglide.

On 1/6/10 at 5:43 PM, Blittler wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

We have freedom of speech for now, but who knows when barrack HUSSEIN obama will take that away from us........

Oh yeah I think Cloward and Piven do, since barrack HUSSEIN obama is following their believe to a tee.

Funny you should say that because the only comments on here that I have ever seen hidden are those of the liberal persuasion and they ain't doing it to themselves.

On 1/6/10 at 7:19 PM, Obamaoluva wrote

Try hooked on fonics worked for me!

You can't possibly be that stupid.

Apparently Ralphy ole boy you ain't been payin' attention. The BDN deletes conservative posts and users all the time. Not only that but they also block your e-mail address so you can't create another username. It's quite legal for them to do it, it's their paper. But they are doing it to their own ruin. Unbeknownst to them, their actions are being recorded, by a third party. They think that if they delete the posts they no longer exist. In fact they most certainly do, it's quite easy to print them and then compare the result to the current 'display'. They are just steering themselves into oblivion.

Of course it's phonics Ralphy. The (sic) was for the Obama mouth breather I was posting for.

EJ, these people are just a more sophisticated KKK.

The Fellowship (also known as “The Familiy”) and Uganda

The Fellowship, through Senator Brownback and Representative Joe Pitts (R.-Pa.), redirected millions in US aid to Uganda from sex education programs to abstinence programs, thereby causing an evangelical revival, which included condom burnings, and doubling the incidence of AIDS.

In a November 2009 NPR interview, Jeff Sharlet alleged that Ugandan Fellowship associates David Bahati and Nsaba Buturo were behind the recent proposed bill in Uganda that called for the death penalty for gays.

Sharlet reveals that David Bahati, the Uganda legislator backing the bill, reportedly first floated the idea of executing gays during The Family's Uganda National Prayer Breakfast in 2008. Mr. Sharlet described Mr. Bahati as a "rising star" in the Fellowship who has attended the National Prayer Breakfast in the United States and, until the news over the gay execution law broke, was scheduled to attend this year's U.S. National Prayer Breakfast.

Family member Bob Hunter gave an interview to NPR in December in which he acknowledged Bahati's connection but argued that no American associates support the bill.

William - Well, I guess the secret is out. You should talk someone on the BDN staff into looking into this group. Sounds like a Pulitzer. And you know newspaper people love Pulitzers.

The New York Times has covered this story, EJ.

This is the link to one of the Times articles. There are others.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html?scp=2&sq=uganda&st=cse

Man your taking a beating Electra, hang in there....:)

Conspiracy Theory #102

On 1/6/10 at 8:16 PM, Obamaoluva wrote:

"Apparently Ralphy ole boy you ain't been payin' attention. The BDN deletes conservative posts and users all the time. Not only that but they also block your e-mail address so you can't create another username. It's quite legal for them to do it, it's their paper. But they are doing it to their own ruin. Unbeknownst to them, their actions are being recorded, by a third party. They think that if they delete the posts they no longer exist. In fact they most certainly do, it's quite easy to print them and then compare the result to the current 'display'. They are just steering themselves into oblivion."

Many posters have had listings deleted by the BDN and not just "conservative posts". For the most part they are deleted when they violate the Guidelines we all agree to when we first start posting here.

Have you ever purchased something online requiring a user name? Have you ever forgotten that user name and tried to establish a second user name with the same email address? Want to guess what happens? You get blocked as the email account you used to sign on the first time already has a user name assigned to it!

As for "Unbeknownst to them, their actions are being recorded, by a third party" I would argue that these "third party" individuals have way to much time on their hands to "record" what the BDN removes.

Do you really believe the BDN thinks that posts they delete "no longer exist?" Any company with a legal department knows and understands that anything which has been posted on the internet exists on the world wide web long after being deleted and can be retrieved by an experienced person.

But if you want to keep looking for the conspiracy in everything that is your business. But not everything that happens or is done by a company or person is done with a hidden agenda.

I like the Conspiracy Theory #102 ......

Is it at all possible that comments could be deleted by a poster and not someone at the BDN?

I wouldn't think so Lady Slipper.

They would actually have to hack in to their computers.

Who know's anything is possible..

Maybe one of these posters is a Phantom BDN worker?????

Electra????????

9:54 pm, William you should look up the Christian Patriot movement, of which EJ Parsons is a member.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Patriot_movement

Read your link anne: Disturbing....That you think a federal marshall sniper shooting a woman holding an infant and an 11 year old boy (ruby ridge) is cool! And apparently you think burning a couple of dozen children alive (thanks janet reno) is A-O-K in your book.... If these events took place in my backyard I'd probably be a member of a fringe 'extremist' group myself. But you've just let the whole world know that your a facist.

On 1/7/10 at 7:51 AM, viper13 wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

anneofmdi -- wikipedia is not a accurate source for the truth, in fact it is quite the opposite as anyone can change a meaning/ entry to fit his or her idea of what that should be.

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A lot of information on wikipedia has never been verified, anyone can add information to wikipedia.

Wikipedia is good for a quick glance for info but you need to verify the info to make sure it is correct..

1/6/10 at 10:15 PM, WilliamDS

Well, now we know why Heath is off to Africa where there is "less resistance" to his ideas.

Stevey_Dee -- Not on here much, so don't know much about the thumbs down thing. Wouldn't you have to log in over and over in order to hit the thumbs down, or can you just keep hitting it while you are on the page and it will disappear?

Viper13....RE:Electraglide yes thank you....

7:45 am, you wrote, "you've just let the whole world know that your a facist." I am definitely not a "facist." You'd better re-check your "fonics" book.

anne - 7:18 AM - There you go again. My being a Patriotic Christian does not make me a member of the Christian Patriot movement. That's like me saying that you and William are Muslims because of your hatred for we Christian imbiciles. You know not what you comment on.

viper13 - 7:51 AM - Must disagree with your ElectriGlide comment. He's odd, but cool at the same time. And his stance on things certainly sparks dialogue. In a word, he's 'unique'.

On 1/7/10 at 8:18 AM, viper13 wrote: Repeated separate thumbs down will cause comment to be hidden

Stevey_Dee -- Not on here much, so don't know much about the thumbs down thing. Wouldn't you have to log in over and over in order to hit the thumbs down, or can you just keep hitting it while you are on the page and it will disappear?

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I think Lady Slipper was talking about actually having the comment totally deleted......

I actually mentioned to Todd they should have the same feature as facebook, the person who wrote the comment can actually delete his own comment.

Sometimes people say something they didn't really want to or it came out the wrong way....

8:54 am, I see. Just because you blog about being a Christian Patriot doesn't mean you're a Christian Patriot. Talking out of both sides of your mouth there, ain't ya?

I see the thumbs down wienies have been at work...

anne - Nothing that I've blogged mentions me being a member of any organization. Just because I claim to be a Christian Patriot, does not make me a member of that group (of whick I didn't know existed until you brought it up, by the way). I do have a credit union card in my wallet, so I guess that makes me a credit union member. I have a USAA card, so there's another group I'm part of. I am retired from the military, so there's one more. I have a Tractor Supply card, a Staples card, a Wal-Mart card, a CVS card, a Books-a-Million card, a Lowe's card, a Home Depot card, a Disney World Photo Pass, and a couple of other pieces of plastic in my wallet. Do those cards make me members of all of those places? Oops, almost forgot my expired Sam's Club Card. Hmmmm. I seem to be missing my Christian Patriot card, my Christian Bigot card, and my Imbicile Card. Something fishy going on.

Tell you what, anne, if you can find anything in my blogs that says I'm a member of this group, go ahead and copy and paste it on here. I'd like to see it. And thanks for checking out my blogs. That's explains your fauxpas on calling me EJ Pearl.

EJ I also have a Disney World Photo Pass, membership has it's privileges.....

I just received an application for AARP....they say that "membership has it's privileges".....maybe HRH can confirm this for me since she probably has been a member for several years now.....

I'm keeping my eye on you ... : )

9:29 pm, claiming to be a Christian Patriot is good enough for me. Try this one on for size: "Just because I claim to be a Progressive Liberal, doesn't make me a member of that group."

I'm a member of the country club....

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Johnnie Cancelarich you have just stepped into the lion's den. Our society now thrives on perversion with absolutely no though of the consequences. Corruption, Pollution and global warming are the least of our concerns. We are spiritually bankrupt and drowning in immorality.>>

Why would you want to be involved with a religious movement/belief system that is so downtrodden? What a sad thing to go through this wonderful life on this beautiful planet with so many exceptional humans, but to only see gloom and doom all around you. And when so many among us are becoming enlightened and conscious, especially among the younger generation. This is an exciting time to live on this planet. We are on the edge of something monumental when it comes to spirituality.

Look back in history and there were many times when the people of this country were more corrupt and immoral. What is any more corrupt and immoral then what was done to the Native population when the Europeon invaders tried to "save them" or completely wipe them off the face of the planet. And what was any more corrupt and immoral then the slave era? Humans were tortured and killed because of the color of their skin and those who weren't killed were forced to work as slaves. What was more corrupt and immoral then the Salem Witch Trials? The list goes on and on.

Funny how followers of Christ only see gloom and doom and think that the world is surely coming to an end, but non believers are filled withjoy, love, hope for the future and excitement about what great things lie ahead.

I`m A Member Of the Getting Thumbed Down Club

Please oh Please Send Me My Card

For Yes Indeedeeee~I Am So Proud

PRO Child / PRO CHOICE

Pro Gay Rights

Pro Single Payer

Pro Womens Rights

Pro Anything I Feel Is Right

And So Happy I almost Wet My Pants

When I Saw How Much EJ Cares And Stood Tall For Me

And Stevey_Dee~I would Be Very Proud to Work for the BDN

But You Have to make that effort to thumb Me Back UP<

My Puter says the 7th

Am I In the Twilight Zone

That is something Electra having EJ sick up for you..

You just might have a chance if you play your cards right..

cgjung, does this answer your question? If not I have plenty more....

1Jo 2:14 I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one.

1Jo 2:15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.

1Jo 2:17 The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

In The Eye of The Beholder

Any Of Us Can Look at A Cloud

Some See Superman Out to Save The Planet

Some See Donald Duck Just A Smilin and A Quacking

And Some See Just A Cloud Just Floating Thru the Sky

Umm, still not seeing why one fixates on notion that the world is coming to an end, that there is "evil" all around, that we are in the worst of times, that anyone who doesn't "think" a certain way is going to burn in the fires of hell(which is mostly the hell that Dante created in his writing) and that if one doesn't believe exactly the way that they are told to believe, that they are against God.

These "worst" of times are actually a lot better than many other periods in American history. Sure, we have our troubled spots, but compared to other periods, this day and age isn''t nearly as "evil" as other times when large groups of people were tortured, enslaved, mutiltated and killed all at the hands of followers of Christ and the government.

I like to believe that the entity/power that created me is a loving, caring and hopeful entity. Not only was I created by that entity, but so was the Earth and thus the world. What a beautiful planet that we have been given to live on. What beautiful people are all around us. Why not focus on loving people, be accepting of the diverse nature of humanity believing that deep down that people are beautiful...if we just look past all the baggage? Why not love others just the way that they are as Christ did? Why not bring a message of hope and love, instead of worlds ending and people being fried?

On 1/6/10 at 7:08 PM, Blittler

It took me almost a full minute to find out that this was a totally made up rant. What I didn't determine in that time whether is what meant facetiously or seriously but it doesn't matter because you presented a fabricated diatribe as factual. You have absolutely no believability.

forHIMtoday: Don't waste your breath on cgjung......He's completely beyond saving. By the way cgjung, if you knew anything about the Native Americans you'd know that they aren't native to America. They migrated across the Siberian land bridge thousands of years ago and are actually from Asia. Hence the similar physical characteristics. Also the indians were nomads, they went from place to place depleting all the resources and then they'd move. And of course whenever they met up with a rival tribe they slaughtered them, often torturing them to death. So when new nomads arrived from Europe they did the same thing as the indigenous tribes did to each other ...fight for their lives. There are no tribes of Indians that weren't nomadic, so the ridiculous notion that the 'pale face' stole their land is absurd on it's face. They had no land, they were a nomadic people. If they claim the US as their land then why not Asia and Alaska and Siberia. Absolutely ridiculous....Also you mentioned slavery, you knowledge is also lacking in this respect as well. Slaves were taken by BLACK slave traders mostly working for the East India Trading Co .and the Dutch, not America. In fact America abolished slavery, we didn't create it. Try dumping your "spirtuality" and read a REAL history book.

cgjung wrote "Funny how followers of Christ only see gloom and doom and think that the world is surely coming to an end, but non believers are filled withjoy, love, hope for the future and excitement about what great things lie ahead." As a follower of Christ, I see the reality of what's happening around us. I see the increased corruption in our government, the increased greed and laziness in our people, and the increased decrease in morality and spirituality. At the same time, I see the love of Jesus Christ increasing in so many as they realize that He is the answer to their woes and problems. I see the grace of God as He allows one of His most glorious nations to turn its back on Him, and holds His wrath while giving us a chance to return. I also see the constant attacks on Christianity while all other religions get a free pass. Why? Because Christ is the only True and Living God, and the mention of His name irritates the ungodly side of men. As a follower of Christ, I see an eternity in the greatest place there will ever be...Heaven.

I, too, believe we are on the edge of something monumental when it comes to spirituality. We're on the edge of a Christian uprising. We're on the edge of Rapture. And we're on the edge of the return of the real Messiah. I hope you see the Light before this all happens.

11:18 am, isn't it odd how so many of these new commenters who just registered within the past 6 days are all forHIM supporters and members of the Religious Right. It's uncanny, seeing as how they make up such a tiny percentage of the general population. None of them seem to be able to spell very well either.

Sorry to burst your bubble Anne.....According to a recent Rassmusen poll, only 20% consider themselves liberals/progressives. Looks like you are in the MAJOR minority sister....By the way 40% consider themselves conservative. The reason you see more people like me on here is because we are tired of you folks destroying the American way of life. The party's over for you folks, real soon!

Most people Anne belive in God, more than 70%. What planet are you living on anyway?

America Has the best of some things and the worse of some things

Guess What You Arrogant Americans~We Are Just Like the Rest of the World

The Term Arrogant American IS there for a Reason

No One IS the Best At Everything

And One of the Best Ways to See This~IS the Way The Rest of The World Sees how We Treated the American Indians.

You May NOT know This~But There IS a Muslim Organization That Fights Harder For the American Indian Than Most Americans

You Can Always Tell An Angry Hateful Bigoted Person

By The Way They Talk about The American Indians

11:39 am, would you provide a link to that Rasmussen poll, please?

Actually I'm 1/5 Cherokee, I refuse to live on a reservation or get Govt. freebies. I'm glad the europeans came and converted and educated us. Otherwise we'd still be living under animal skins.

Dang EJ, Are we going in time to the American Revolution

Have You forgotten what that was about

And other Than That for now

Your Must Be Reading to much of Your Own Propaganda<

Obamaoluva, (can't you even spell your own username right?) you are so full of misinformation, I'm starting to guess you might be related to the Palins! Are you really Trig?

EJParsons~I have to Trust You were really in The Service of Our Country

But I Also have to Point out to You

You Do Not Sound Like Most Military Soldiers I have talked to.

You also fail to mention Modern Communications

Lets just say the 60`s~I`ll bet there were many things happening in the world~like extremes of weather etc. that we never heard about.

Now Days, One could say you can`t even belch w/o someone reporting IT<

So What you say, well modern communications does make it feel like things are getting worse.

And For Shame for those that Try to Use That Feeling to Control Mankind.

Anne sorry I was mistaken....It was a Gallop Pol.....l http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/07/conservatism-ranks-nations-ideology/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528Text+-+Politics%2529....

Read it and weep. Oh wait it's on a Fox site so it's probably bogus....right? Check the Gallop(sp?) poll site if you don't believe Fox.

Obamaoluva,

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=306423

"Braving the blizzard to go to church this morning?

If the professional head counters are to be believed, the answer for almost eight of 10 Mainers is no.

How about the daily prayer – have you said yours yet?

Forty percent of you have, but 60 percent will let the day go by (praying for the Patriots to beat Houston doesn't count) without so much as a celestial nod.

So is religion important to you at all?

Fifty-eight percent of Maine's population think not.

Now for the ultimate query: Do you believe in God?

Heavens yes, says 59 percent of Maine. But a whopping 41 percent doesn't."

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http://www.wmtw.com/news/22070258/detail.html

"A new study from the Pew Research Center said people in Northern New England are among the least religious in the country.

Vermont and New Hampshire were put together for the survey and ranked at the bottom of the list.

Massachusetts was third from the bottom.

Maine ranked fourth from the bottom."

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Just sayin'... you might wanna revisit your stats. Even WorldNUTdaily and oneNEURONnow (you know, the fundie type "news" sites) have been decrying the loss of faith in America.

I'm celebrating it.

JD: I don't have time to read much of this stuff on the comments pages any longer, but did read your's at 6:20 AM regarding deletions, thumbing down,etc. Good explanation. As for the thumbing down, it does not take many individuals at all (not at all!) to thumb down a comment. It does not prove much. And had to really laugh at that comment by "Obamaoluva" concerning the right winger's comments being voted down. Very very little.

And yes, some posters have had their accts shut down and email addresses blocked, or so it seems. They deserved to as they abused, over and over, the BDN guidelines. Maybe they should have taken some responsibility for their actions and if so, would not have been removed.

I know marko facts just suck don't they.

I spelled my user name correctly...Its called satire maybe you'll see it if I spell it this way.....Oba(MAO)luva....See it yet. Didn't think so, try reading !! BOY U SURE IS SMART!

Yah, there are blacks that feel the same way about their race

Guess what Blacks do not consider them part of their race either

And You can Truly Believe if you are 1/5 Cherokee (cough)

That No Indians consider YOU part of The American Indians

They would be saying you speak with forked tongue

Tedlick the figure I stated was for the US not Maine or New England. My figure is correct, maybe you should move to a third world country, there are no Christians there.

And teddy we all know how the homosexual community carefully targets those states that are the least "spiritual" in the hopes of promoting their perversion to the general public at large. This all has to be so discouraging for you all. Can't help smiling over you losing California of all places.

11:59 am, it is bogus,because Democrats in the U.S. still have an 8 percentage-point advantage over Republicans. Which has nothing to do with the Religious Right, by the way.

AionCA: I was amused by a certain poster thinking you had been kicked off or whatever, and re-emerged or was let back on. What some don't seem to realize is that not everyone posts all the time, day after day. They might comment quite often for a while, and then for various reasons, not. They then might decide to comment now and then later. Such assumptions some make.

ElectraGlide: Be glad you are one of the posters being thumbed down, and not the opposite.

I know a Super Christian that said last Sunday Morning

"I am thankful for the Satellite Service Man for Installing My HD this Morning~All the While in snow up to his armpits last Sunday. All So they Could Watch the Patriots. Oblivious to the Fact She Condoned Working on the Sabath.

I really had To Laugh when I heard the Patriots Got there Clocks Cleaned.

Hypocrisy At Its Finest~Right here in Little ole Maine

chersully your 12:15 post was absolutely amazing. Where do you get all these facts from!

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**As a member of the human race, I see the corruption in our government and greed. I can't say that I see increased laziness in people. More and more young people are working hard to get a college degree, more than any other generation. Many of them are working full-time jobs as well as going to school full-time. Most young families have two adults working. I see hard working men and women all around me who have adapted to this fast paced, busy world that we live in. It is hard to function in this fast paced world if one is lazy because there is so much going on so quickly. We have the world at our finger tips right now because of modern technology, so more and more people are using this technology to educate themselves and to learn more about the world.

Our young people know more about the world beyond their small world, than any other generation. I do not see that our morals and spirituality have declined. I see an opening of the human mind and spirit. I see that most people in this modern world have become more accepting than ever before, realizing that it is not up to us humans to judge and/or condemn other human beings. I see a movement toward loving and accepting those who have been pushed to the fringes of society for far too long, in the very same way that Jesus did in his time. Our world is constantly evolving, so is the human race. We continue to define and refine the world and our place in it, to question and ponder. These are all good things, things to celebrate, things to feel hope about.

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**How many Jewish holidays are national holidays? How many days off from school do children get because of Muslim holy days? When was the last time that you went to a "Kwanzaa " concert at the local school? What other religion is given a month filled with television shows, movies and commercials all about one holiday, as Christmas is given? How many school vacations center around important days in the Buddhist calendar? How many would allow their children to learn only Wabanaki songs to perform for the community in a concert? I'm pretty sure that people from the religions that I have mentioned don't at all feel that they have been given a "free pass." To them, it looks very much like Christianity has been given a free pass.

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**I invite and welcome the mention of God/The Creator in conversations, as do many other agnostics. What gets under our skin is the insistence that we must believe exactly the way that you believe(based on your interpretation) or else we are going to hell, and that if we don't believe exactly as you tell us to believe, we are against God. I love to hear about how other humans believe, but I don't like being told that I am going to hell because of what I believe. I don't think that you will be condemned because of what you believe, so why must you insist that I will burn in the fires of hell because of my beliefs and understandings. I respect your right to believe as you wish, but I don't appreciate having those beliefs forced on me the way that many Christians do.

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I would imagine that people thought that same thing during the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War I and II(especially when the bombs wiped entire cities off the face of the map in an instant or when the details of the Holocaust were made known), the Vietnam era...etc. We are no close to the end of the world now then we were then, in fact in some ways we have become more civilized in this time than in past generations.

chersully2000~just like in the Gay Peoples Fight for Equality

I am always glad to be thumbed down

for getting under the skin of those that thumb down~Makes Me Proud

California Ya Da Ya Da~How about Washington

And there Is probably No other State that Still Remembers Why We Fought the British In the American Revolution~And What those Reasons Were.

Than Massachusetts~They are Not Perfect Just LIke All of Us

But I am Very Proud to Be Associated With Such A Free Thinking State As Massachusetts.

And Also Vermont and New Hampshire.

Beautiful States In America

For Shame those that Speak Down on Them For There Special Interest

Makes You NO Better than a Lawyer or Politician

According to Polls you are So In Need of Now

And I am So Proud of Wifey for Being on the Top of Dat Poll.

:)

I was reacting to your 70% quote...

"Most people Anne belive in God, more than 70%."

Nationally, I could care less... the most religious state is Mississippi, which also has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates. Seems to be the typical outcome as well.

I moved to New England (Maine in particular) from the South specifically because fundies (all Xians for that matter) are far less influential than in the "Bible Belt".

And I ain't goin' nowhere.

As for no Xians in the third world, um... I thought you were into facts? Uganda is a fine example.

If the third world country ain't muslitm it's Xian (Uganda being a fine example). Fundies are fundies... I really see no difference at the core. Bombing planes or shooting abortion doctors: it's only a matter of degree.

WOW cgjung~Don`t Stop

It Has been along time since I have heard such positive Talk

And You Are A Master At IT<

1/7/10 at 12:10 PM, forHIMtoday

Discouraging? What ever for?

My life has changed none... you keep acting like you've rid the world of we "immoral" homos, but we're all right here. Nothing has changed.

You live in a wold of awful things, I live in a world of wonderful things.

I also have the courts on my side... it's already making it's way through. Then my life will change: and it'll be out of your reach.

No matter how much pride you take in hurting people, you haven't really changed my life one bit: except perhaps a little more dislike and distrust for those who claim to be "of Christ". I'm sure he's happy with you for that.

You're the one who seems discouraged at how vile, evil, and full of sin the world is.

Not me.

cgjung what you espouse to is nothing more than New Age religion which is nothing new, its as old as the hills. I notice you frequently use the terms "I think" and "I feel". I would have to ask you, what do you base your feelings and thoughts on? "I think" the prescription on your rose colored glasses has expired.

cgjung,

Sorry... it's not a "real" religion unless you are as disgusted with the world as 4him and EJP.

If you think the world is a great place to be, you're a heathen.

I know teddy, I know! You believe in the responsible use of drugs, porn, abortion, and men marrying men. You are just so enlightened, I'm in absolute awe as to how much further you've evolved than us poor fundies that are just coming out of the cave into the light.

The Kennedy Family Tree~I Believe They Were Roman Catholics

Was President Kennedy The First Roman Catholic President

A Father and # Brothers~Made A Lot of History In America

Role Models for Some~Hated By Others~I Still Get Sick When Watching My President Get Shot in Dallas

What Turbulant Times We All Went Thru Together.

The Father Has Dirt on Him~I do Not know If I mite Not of Got My Money That Way

For To This Day I Still Do Not Condone Prohibition On Alcohol or Pot

But I would Really have to Use my Memory to Remember A Political Family

That Over-All cared So Much for Us Joe`s and Mary`s

ignorance is bliss, tedlick.

Watch It forHIMtoday~That Light mite of been A Lightning Bolt

Now Who Said Which Religion IS The Right Religion

Oh My It was A Man~For According to 4HIM

Women have No Place In Anything but the Kitchen and Bedroom.

Is IT a Wonder That Most Politicians Are MEN

You Know Them Trusted Politicians

Dang, the Next President Mite Be Another First~A Women

I Mite Vote for That Just for Dat Reason

I Wonder If We Would Win The Peace Prize Again.

And Then The Next One To Be Fair

Should Be A Gay Person

I Would Vote for Dat In A Heart Beat.

Now Try To Keep Up With Our Future History

You Cave Dwellers

8:54 AM, EJParsons, actually we dislike individuals, movements, and organizations that mistreat people. Hatred is too strong a word.

cgjung, maybe this will help, its a command to Christians from Jesus also known as the "great commission"

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Mat 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

4him,

You've not come out of the cave yet. Don't give yourself more credit than you deserve.

That's why the world is so dark, dank, and cold.

But you'll get there one day.

12:50 PM, Ladyslipper,

Then why are Xians so convinced the world is nothing but pain and misery?

And I dislike Islam equally, by the way, EJ, and for the same reasons. They have the same rights as Christians under the law in the US. I would change that for all of you but I know that would be unconstitutional. One must abide by the law...

and He also said ...(now for all you liberals, this requires judgement, YES judgement) "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

1:05 PM, forHIMtoday, that's all well and good but what your organization actually does is mistreat people, cause their early deaths, and seek to exclude law abiding citizens from participation in civic life. Not to mention...."your imaginary friends..."

12:56 PM, ElectraGlide, ha....you are the MAN! great post.

1:08 PM, forHIMtoday, that requires YOUR judgement to know what is holy, who are dogs or swine, and an assumption that that pearls are yours, and that you know a pearl when you see one.

Obamaoluva maybe you should listen to your own advice about reading a "REAL" history book.

The William Wilberforce and the British abolished the slave trade in 1807 with the passing of the Slave Trade Act which Wilberforce championed for 26 years. That would be approximately 58 years before the United States of America abolished slavery.

The shippers were, in order of scale, the Portuguese (and Brazilians), the English, the French, the Spanish, the Dutch, and the North Americans and not BLACK slave traders as you want people to believe.

Most enslaved people were shipped from West Africa and Central Africa and taken to North and South America to work as unpaid labor on sugar, coffee, cocoa and cotton plantations, in gold and silver mines, in rice fields, or in houses to work as servants

Most contemporary historians estimate that between 9.4 and 12 million Africans arrived in the New World, although the number of people taken from their homestead is considerably higher.

Maybe we didn't "create" slavery but we perpetuated the practice for almost 90 years longer than we had to. The Second Contential Congress, in order to gain the Southern vote for Independence removed the prohibiton that Thomas Jefferson had written into the Declaration of Independence.

I know "one" when I see "one". How 'bout you 4HIM?

WilliamDS~~I will never Ever forgot the Day You Slammed Me With The Truth

Will Always Respect You for That and Thank You TOO<

A Nap Is needed NOW~So I do Not over-react to some personal Issues.

1:30 PM, HRH419, you know very little actually. That's the problem with that sort of "judgement."

Which truth was that, ElectraGlide?

Will see who knows what in the end William...talk about judgements.

1:08 pm and 1:42 pm, you Fake Christians couldn't possibly know anything of the pearls described by Jesus. Copying and pasting the Word and the name of God and the Holy Spirit here on these public blogs to try to win a political discussion is blasphemy, the single most unforgivable and unpardonable sin. You have already sealed your fate here many times over.

That's exactly my point, HRH, YOU don't get to decide what judgement is... But you keep trying.

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Mat 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." >>>

ForHIM:

And this is what you are doing here? Showing others what a "loving" disciple that you are and that we should all follow your path(of gloom, doom and despair). What part of what you do here is an example of the all-encompassing love and transforming power of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit? All I see come from your postings are judgement, condemnation, sarcasm, despair, unkind/unloving remarks about others who don't believe as you do. Nothing in your words models the love of the one who gave his life for humanity. Exactly what words that you have written here are an *example* of Christ's love, acceptance and transforming power?

BTW: I was involved with Christianity for the first forty years of my life. I researched, attended and was involved with several denominations including: RLDS, Congregational, Weslyan, Advent Christian, Pentecostal, Catholicism and some far out evangelical group from Toronto. I searched, studied and hardly missed a Sunday at some church for forty years, but I found nothing in any of those religions/denominations that brought me hope, joy, a sense of compassion or empathy. It took a life changing event of witnessing one man die of a sudden death and watching another slowly die over a ten year period for me to make my *own* trip into the desert alone for more than forty-days and forty-nights. I use the words "I think" or "I believe" because all I can do is share what I have come to know through my life journey.

I removed myself completely from organized religion because it had caused me nothing but heartache and despair. When I finally began to look deep within myself in the quiet and stillness found in the Maine woods(which for three years I spent 2-4 hours in every single day) did I begin to really *get* what the teachings of Christ were all about. Only then did I really understand how simple the message was, and how much we humans(particularly many who call themselves Christian) have complicated and frabricated such a simple message. I felt like I was given a second chance at life as I was able to stop drinking heavily, smoking cigarettes, over indulging, neglecting and abusing my body. I tried to make a list of all of the wrongs that I had done in my life and tried to make them right. I tried to learn from my mistakes and to make corrections in my life so that I might be a better human being.

After watching the love of my life suffer and die a horrid death from cancer, I decided that for the remainder of my life, I was try to find joy in the small things, that I would love the unlovable, reach out to those who have been downtrodden, speak up for those who have been oppressed and pushed to the fringes like Christ did in his time. I know that this life, in this human body, in this realm of existance and understanding, is such a short time. I want to use what time I have here wisely, being grateful for each day, each moment. I want people to see love in my eyes and in my face. I want to embrace others(even though they are different) rather than think I am superior over them.

After being so completely entrenched in modern Christianity for all of those years and then stepping back from it for the past five years, I can now see how blinded that I was by my shallow way of thinking. I realize now how unChristian that my beliefs, words and actions used to be(which I was taught at the various churches I attended). I have experienced firsthand the liberating and life saving transformative power that Christ talked about. I have been able to ask for forgiveness for those things that I had done wrong, sought forgiveness from many that I had hurt and then I have been able to forgive myself for how I was during the first forty years of my life.

I speak out now against the wrongs that I see. I speak out when I see one group of people wanting to degrade and condemn other groups of people. I speak out about the very things that Christ spoke out about. For the first time in my life I feel healthy, whole and full of joy and love. Call if "New Age" if you want, I call it really *seeing the light* for the first time in my life. Ever think that those who worship only where "two or more or gathered" rather than in a building, as a part of an organized religion, are the most Christlike people on this planet? One of his missions was to show us the evil in the organized religion of his time, how it tore people down and how it excluded many rather than build people up. Sounds like modern day organized religion to me.

As human beings there is so much for us to learn from each other. Why can't we celebrate our similarities and learn from each other when it comes to our differences?

cgjung, actually I have had the reverse of what you have had. I bought into the new age nonsense before I had "my eyes" opened to the truth. I once believed that all roads ended at the same destination. Here you are muck like the pharisee condemning me while at the same time condemning judging others. Quite hypocritical wouldn't you say?

I too was raised in organized "religion" and I now understand why Jesus had such strong words against it. You are now part of the very thing you condemn. Make no mistake, while your words may impress the secular, you yourself have probably never been saved to begin with. Attending church regularly does not a Christian make. You clearly fail to see the absolute depravity of the human heart. Failing to see that very thing keeps you from seeing it in yourself. Failing to recognize that very thing negates the need for a Savior in your own life.

So now that we're both claiming to have had our eyes opened to the truth, only one of us can have it right, or as New age Age would teach, "we can both be right". I can boldly say without reservation that you are completely wrong in your assessment and not one bit of it lines up with scripture. Jesus came to save the lost regardless of race, wealth, gender or status. He made the claim that He is the only way...period! There are no other options...period! You now call yourself an agnostic into indian spirituality if I remember correctly. Sorry, I for one don't buy it and neither does God. And all that I've just claimed can easily be backed up with scripture which for any Christian is the final litmus test....anything else is nothing but a lie...period!

I rest my case 4Him...or should I say you rest my case for me.

4:36 pm, forHIM has been making your case here for quite some time. Good job posting your thoughts, cgjung.

On 1/7/10 at 1:28 PM, JD2008 wrote: "Maybe we didn't "create" slavery but we perpetuated the practice for almost 90 years longer than we had to. The Second Contential Congress, in order to gain the Southern vote for Independence removed the prohibiton that Thomas Jefferson had written into the Declaration of Independence. "

Yeah, sparky good thing the Republicans cames around and kicked you Democrats butt in the Civil War or else their would still be slaves in America. Your liberal pal Grand Dragon Senator Byrd of the KKK filibustered the civil rights act. The Democrats tried to stop Africans American from attending public schools and the National Guard had to be called in so the poor kids could attend class. Thousands of good Republicans died to free the slaves while the Democrats fought tooth and nail to keep them. Nothing has changed today, the Democrats have created a new slave class, the entitlement class. So dependent on public assistance that they are slaves to the party, and will elect any democrat in order to keep the checks flowing.

forHIM, nIce that you continue to speak for "GOD." It's all crap. The only thing that matters is treating all people with dignity and respect and causing no harm. period. Believing there is a supernatural being who punishes and rewards is just silly superstition that we in the 21st century are better off without. If your entities exist, and if I have interpreted my learning of "God's words" correctly, you are in for a big surprise. Lording your religious ideas over others and proclaiming yourself "saved" is going to get you cast into the abyss. You don't get to decide who is saved, including yourself.

On 1/7/10 at 12:28 PM, cgjung wrote: "How many Jewish holidays are national holidays? How many days off from school do children get because of Muslim holy days? When was the last time that you went to a "Kwanzaa " concert at the local school? What other religion is given a month filled with television shows, movies and commercials all about one holiday, as Christmas is given? How many school vacations center around important days in the Buddhist calendar? "

I have no idea what your smoking chummie, but let me tell ya what....This is the United States of America. This country was founded by Christians for Christians. That is why, oh knowledgable one, there are no other religious holidays other than CHristian ones. And if you don't like it, why don't you move to Tibet and be a Buhdist. I bet they don't have many Christian holidays in Tibet either...Where did you get your education Beal College? If you have any doubt as to where you are, open your wallet, take out any denomination. Read it, see it, "IN GOD WE TRUST!" If you can't dig it, than beat it France has got some Euro's for ya!

5:05 PM, Obamaoluva, Strom Thurmond supported racial segregation with the longest filibuster ever conducted by a single Senator, speaking for 24 hours and 18 minutes in an unsuccessful attempt to derail the Civil Rights Act of 1957. Cots were brought in from a nearby hotel for the legislators to sleep on while Thurmond rambled on about random things, including his grandmother's biscuit recipe. Other Southern Senators, who had agreed as part of a compromise not to filibuster this bill, were upset with Thurmond because they thought his defiance made them look bad to their constituents. According to journalist Jeff Sharlet, he was a member of the Family (also known as the Fellowship), described by prominent evangelical Christians as one of the most politically well-connected fundamentalist organizations in the U.S.

Thurmond was increasingly at odds with the Democratic Party. On September 16, 1964, he switched his party affiliation to Republican. This man cannot be considered a good citizen, in my opinion.

Obamaoluva, oh yeah.......you really strike me as a good Christian. LO f'n' L

Your missing the point the entire Southern region was entirely Democrat at the time fought to the Death to keep slavery. And you faild to mention Byrd(D), the only living KKK member still in congress

I ain't mo fundie as you lefty like to call 'em. But I know what country I live in and it's a God fearing on. No matter what depravity you freaks throw at real Americans, we can't take it. But your gonna hear about it.

william, funny how you condemn me for speaking whats in scripture and claiming I can't know I'm saved, yet you have decided I'm headed for the abyss. Typical liberal humanistic progressive hypocritical gibberish. If it feels good and sounds good by golly its just gotta be right!

The Democratic Party has changed. Byrd joined the KKK in 1942. The whole country was racist in 1942. He dropped his membership in 1952. A whole lifetime ago. I doubt he holds racist views today. At least I hope he doesn't. The Republican party is not the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln. Don't even try going there...

Obamaoluva let me correct some of your assumptions about me and your version of history.....

Assumption #1 - "Yeah, sparky good thing the Republicans cames around and kicked you Democrats butt in the Civil War or else their would still be slaves in America."

Correction #1 - Not a member of the democrat party. Have never been a member of the democrat party. Was an independent until I change my party affiliation to republican and have never changed it back. I address your Civil War knowledge below.

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Assumption #2 - "Your liberal pal Grand Dragon Senator Byrd of the KKK filibustered the civil rights act."

Correction #2 - Not my liberal pal. Have voted for Ronald Reagan x2, George H.W. Bush x2, Bob Dole x1, George W. Bush x2 and John McCain x1. Have voted for democrat Senators but have started to change my way of thinking. In the future I will vote for the candidate that will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution (and I do not mean the ship in Boston).

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Assumption #3 - "The Democrats tried to stop Africans American from attending public schools and the National Guard had to be called in so the poor kids could attend class."

Correction #3 - I believe it was President Harry Truman (D), Dwight Eisenhower (R) and Lyndon Johnson (D) that championed the civil rights movement and ordered U.S. Marshals and the 101st Airborne Division (not a National Guard unit) to escort to public schools.

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Assumption #4 - "Thousands of good Republicans died to free the slaves while the Democrats fought tooth and nail to keep them. Nothing has changed today, the Democrats have created a new slave class, the entitlement class."

Correction #4 - The American Civil Way was not fought over slavery which is a popular myth. It was fought over states rights. Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation (the first signed in 1862 and the second signed in 1863) only freed those slaves from states in open rebellion. It did not free the slaves in the North and the following Northern states had slaves; Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware. Slavery continued to be legal, and to exist, until December 18, 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment was enacted.

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Assumption #5 - "So dependent on public assistance that they are slaves to the party, and will elect any democrat in order to keep the checks flowing."

Correction #5 - You continue to show your total lack of understanding of the political process by making the assumption that someone that supports the democrat party is someone looking for a handout. That is simply not true.

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I look forward to the next installment of Obamaoluva revisionist history.

5:33 PM, forHIMtoday, I was paraphrasing... I don't believe there is an abyss but you do...

My generalizations about the Civil War are accurate, the States Rights debate was about the states right to continue slavery. The other pap you rattle off about I could care less about. You may say your a Republican, but after your postings, HA good one! You are out of your gourd if you don't think the over whelming majority of people on public assitance vote Democrat. And again if you don't think the Democrat party plays the people for their vote. In fact the Democrats next move, is to legalize 20 million illegal immigrants, why?.....For their vote of course.

Thanks for the history lesson JD..

JD2008 can use wikipedia......OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I'm so impressed at your copy, paste technique....Thanks for proving my point genius.

Obamaoluva you are so typical of so many people posting on here. You spout off "facts" and when proven wrong you dismiss them as "pap". I noticed that you;

did not dispute that the Second Continental Congress changed Thomas Jefferson's original draft to remove any regerence to freeing the slaves, or

did not dispute that England and not the U.S. ended slavery 58 years earlier, or

President Lincoln only freed those slaves from states in open rebellion.

What you call "pap" are facts and you are unable to dispute them because they are just that, factual.

And, no the National Gaurd (as well as US Marshalls) did escort students on multiple occasions, infact there are famous photographs of the event.

So looks like your corrections are all bunk.

I smell RINO!

Obamaoluva you are beginning to look very desperate and rather foolish.

On 1/7/10 at 5:17 PM, Obamaoluva wrote: "Read it, see it, "IN GOD WE TRUST!" If you can't dig it, than beat it France has got some Euro's for ya!"

Why do you assume that only Christians center their lives around a God? And show me exactly in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and The Declaration of Independence where it says we are to be a Christian nation because the leaders of that time were all Christian? Many of the forefathers/mothers were agonistic, atheist or believed in one God(not three).

Democrats loved slavery! Republicans (Lincoln{R}) ended it. Thanks again for proving my point. Good job!

No Obamaoluva, I can think for myself....if that is what you want to call a RINO then I will wear that badge with honor.

Huh three Gods? There is only one amigo. If you are referring to the Trinity, then you better go back to Sunday school sparky.

Obamaoluva, just for the record it was not President Lincoln that freed the slaves. But the sacrifice of some 360,222 (110,070 KIA) Union solders that freed the slaves. Not all were republicans. Many joined because they wanted to preserve the Union.

Because the Conferacy wanted the right to be soverign, so they could keep their slaves. Not all Union soldiers were republican, but the vast majority were. Vice-versa the Confederates.

Oh anne of MDI.... I have a link you'd might like, don't be mad http://www.gallup.com/poll/124958/Conservatives-Finish-2009-No-1-Ideological-Group.aspx

So sorry. But it looks like it's going to be a Democrat bloodbath at the polls next fall. Oh boy is this gonna be great.

Obamaoluva...I will fact check your last post regarding party affiliation when I return from my second job.

Yeah you better....Gallup Polls as well as Rassmusen have such an amazing reputation for "making things up!"

I love when you show a liberal facts, either their head explodes or they just start yelling and screaming. It's hard when the ficticious world they create for themselves goes slamming into reality.

Kinda like Al Gore right now with his "Global Warming" hoax. Apparently since it appears as though we are entering a new ice age, Al Gore has canceled all his up coming speaking egagements. Take the money and run Al!

Hey Fox haters.....Check it...........HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! The State controled media (NBC,CBS,ABC,PBS,CNN,MSNBC) is getting pummelled into oblivion.

Adios amigos!

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Obamaoluva, you're embarrassing yourself...

3:27~cgjung~Very Well Said~As I have Come to My Decisions About Religion in a Similar Way

Attending and being Baptized in 2 Religions One Roman Cath and One Protestant

As You I found the Fellowship of Church Goers Hypocritical

Again Your Post are So Right On~I can`t wait to read the Next

The Good Spirit of Man~Is the Spirit of Reading Mans Word In the Bible

No Matter What Worldwide Religion

And I only Hang with People with The True Spirit

The Rest As Well Known~Will Get A piece of My Mind

No, but apparently your feeling the heat, huh, chummie.

The Blood Bath At the Next Election

Is Going To Encompass Both Sides

You Repubs are So Blind to the Facts

Just Continue to Swallow Your Propaganda

For the Prove Will Be In The Pudding in Just A Little While

And Wow I have A Great Record Since IKE.

Thats What You Get When You Do Not Follow

Any Pied Piper

Get off the pipe Electra and you won't be so 'pied'.

It's getting hot in here....

Old Geeezzzaaaaa Electra's back from his nap too....:)

Do you have the talking bass Electra?????

Dont lie...:)

There IS NO Heat In My Life~For the Truth Is All That Matters

And You @Obamaoluva Are So Transparent

That You Are Scared to Death and Your Little Soldiers Are In for The Shook of There Stupid Life.

Patience IS a Virtue And You know Nothin About Either

AS I thought I Recognized Your King Cobra Behavior Last Nite.

And I know You Supported The Gray IN Gettsburg

You Lost There and You Will Lose Again

It Is All Just A Matter Of Time

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BTW~For All Caring Compassionate People

I`m Sure You are As Happy As I Am~That Amber Is Free At Long Last.

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For Those That have Followed And Commented Much Longer than King Cobra

My Prediction of The Status Quo Would Prevail

Is Coming More True Daily~As The Public Option Is Being Disregarded

It Really Is a Good Thang~For It Was Just Another Dirigo~Set Up To Fail

Because Those Fat Cat Special Interest Are Still in Control

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Don`t Worry King Cobra~You Will Really Enjoy the Heat In Hell

Along With Your Little Soldiers

If They Don`t Repent Their Sins

When The Truth Comes Out As It Usually Does

For Your Bottom of The Barrel Is Still Starring You In The Face

You Just Don`t Realize IT YET~OR DO YOU~KIng Cobra

Signed Your Personal Lawn Mower

Talkin Bass Stevey_Dee~Don`t Matter

Only The Ones That Jump Up In Fright When The Hook Has Been Set Matter~And The Fatter The Better As You Well Know~Make the Biggest Spash

Most Are Released Back into the Wilds

Just So They Can Repeat There Fright The Very Next Calm Night

For Electra Is Known To Have That Magic Touch

When It Comes To Finding The Basses In My Life.

I catch a few bass too Electra... There is a lot of large mouth in Maine now. Caght a 20 inch LG Mouth through the ice....

No talking bass....Yet.

I'm surprised I havent got one for Christmas.....

Stevey_Dee~~Maybe Next Year Stevey

But I`m Not A Player So The Answer IS NO

But You Are Sure Right About A Lot of Large Mouth Bass In Maine

Most of Dem People~Not Much Brighter Than Da Bass

But Small Mouth have Taken over On My Water

And There Are Much Better Fighters lb for lb

If You Wanna ~ Maybe Someday I Can Show Ya

But I sure Wish for Sure~That Ice Fishing Rotated

From Water To Water / To Preserve the Pleasure

For All

Anyone know why Jan 7 letter were not published? ...or did I overlook them somehow?

Hey WilliamDS~~I for One Do Not Care

If We Missed One Winter Day

Sorta Fun To Just Scrabble

Over What Ever Came Up

WilliamDS~Sorry It has Takin Me So Long To Catch Up

The Truth Was You Changing my Vote from Yes To No

It All Started When You Held me Accountible for Lyin

When I had Gay Friends that I knew that didn`t care about my Vote

You Said~Then you Really Do NOT have A Gay Friend

Thanks